Saturday, December 22, 2007

when i worked at thermotron

interesting thing about holland michigan and thermotron, is that the managers i delt with all bragg with liers and deceivers..they are..

when ROn Wiley was the thermotron west coast manager, dispatcher, "good old boy"

I was working at Litton Ind and just set up an test lab for them in Oregon i hired and trained the new staff and when Ron Wiley sent up 3 thermotron field service technicians, all 3 combined barley made up one complete person..

But they have to get their training somewhere.. one customer at time...

Then Ron Wiley dispatehed a unskilled and un qualified employee from washington state to perform the start up on an vibration shaker..

his only training at thermotron was they told him it was "roundand blue " and it fit under the chamber..

after a week of trying to get it to work.. he concluded that the logic moduel was bad..

40 hours for that..

But he did know where the "Hidden Buttons" were on the chamber temperature controller..

the 3 other field service engineers Ron Wiley dispatched didn't have a clue..

when i asked if he could do a operational performance over view for the 13 men i had hired in the test lab ,

Ron wiley and Dave waterfield said thermotron no longer does that for customers..

Ron Wiley asked
me if i remembered Berry Wright who was a Tom Bannach replacement.. and he quit thermotron when dave waterfield gave him a Dan O'keefe review.. policy .. find some thing they did wrong and make a big deal about it.. so u don't have to give then a raise.. he quit as the West Coast Manager,

and Fred Plont had a lot of backstabbing words to say about that ... but as i said to fred Plont.. "what'sit to u ?" and freds reply was " Well he won't be able to find a better job where u don't have to work very hard" as fred's claim to fame is being a lazy lying 2 faced back stabber and embezzler.. u can see why he is a long ter m
Thermotron employee..

Heck.. Bob Wiley hired him twice!!!

any way... because Holland Michigan is know as the West Coast Hipocroits..
and Thermotron is a great place to see all the different types of liars, thieves and embezzlers,

all of them fit into howard pittmans profile on who is going to Hell..

Howard Pittman's Testimony

On August 3, 1979, Howard Pittman, a Baptist minister for 35 years, died while on the operating table during surgery and had a near-death experience. After angels showed him the second and third heavens, he was taken before the very Throne of God where he was given a message to share with the world.

"When the angels lifted my spirit from my body, they carried me immediately to the second heaven. We did not have to leave that hospital room in order to enter the second heaven. We entered there in that same room where my body was, just passing through a dimension wall. It is a wall which flesh cannot pass through, only spirit.

"As we moved through that dimension wall into the second heaven, I found myself in an entirely different world, far different from anything I had ever imagined. This world was a place occupied by spirit beings as vast in number as the sands of the seashore. These beings were demons, or fallen angels, and were in thousands of different shapes and forms. Some of the forms were so morbid and revolting that I was almost to the point of nausea.

"When I first arrived in the second heaven, I knew immediately in what direction I must go to reach the third heaven where God was. I don't know how I knew that, but I did. I also knew that if I was going to get my prayer answered, I was going to have to appear before God the Father in the third heaven. I was aware that I was traveling in that spirit world under the protection of the Holy Spirit, and that the angels who were escorting me were also moving about under the protection of the Holy Spirit.

"As we moved about there in that world, I was greatly disappointed that my escorts did not take me in the direction of the third heaven where God was. Instead, we moved in the opposite direction. As we moved from place to place in that world, I learned many things about demons.
"I did things differently in the spirit realm than what we do here in the physical world. For instance, we did not communicate with our mouths and ears, but rather, we communicated with our minds. It was like projecting our words on thought waves and receiving the answer the same way. Although I could still think to myself without projecting, I discovered that this really did not benefit me because the angels could read my mind.

"I could hear different sounds in that world, but I did not hear with my ears. I heard with my mind, but I was still able to "hear" those sounds. When we traveled, we traveled mostly at what I call the "speed of thought." When we traveled at the "speed of thought", there was no sensation of movement. The angel would say where we were going and we were there. There were other times when we did not travel in that manner, and I was very much aware of movement while traveling. One of those times when I was aware of movement was when they brought me back into the physical world and allowed me to see the demons working here. We moved about here somewhat like floating on a cloud. Still, I had the sensation of movement.

"When we started the tour of the second heaven, the angels began by showing me the different types of demons. Each demon was revealed to me in a form that indicated his area of expertise, and I soon discovered that there is no such thing as a "general practitioner" in all the demon world. The demons are all experts in their fields. They have only one area of expertise which they do very well. "At one time during this tour of the second heaven, I watched the demons within their own related group and I experienced an awful feeling. It was an overwhelming, oppressive, and morbid feeling. This feeling came to me shortly after I had entered the second heaven and I wondered what was causing it. It was at this time that I learned that the angels could read my mind because my guardian angel said to me, "That feeling you are wondering about is caused by the fact that there is no love in this world." The angel was telling me that in this second heaven there is not one bit of love! Wow! Can you imagine all of those demons serving a master they don't love and the master ruling over beings that he doesn't love? Worse than that, their companions are working together for an eternity and they do not even love each other.

"I started reflecting on what our physical world, called the first heaven, would be like without love. If God had not introduced his love here in our world, then we would be living in a no-love atmosphere like the second heaven. By God giving us his love, we are able to return that love and then love one another. Can you imagine what it would be like in your own home or your community if it was totally void of love?

"My escorts then told me that they wanted me to see demon activity in the outside world. I was then escorted outside the hospital directly through the brick wall into the streets of that city. I was amazed as I watched all the activity of the humans in the physical world. Going about their daily pursuit, they were completely unaware that they were being stalked by beings from the spirit world. I was totally flabbergasted as I watched and horrified as I saw the demons in all shapes and forms as they moved at will among the humans. "When the angels decided that I had seen enough of the demons at work in this physical world, I was taken back into the second heaven just by passing through the dividing, dimension wall. Once back inside the second heaven, my escort guided me in this direction of the third heaven and I was happy at last. After all, this was where I had wanted to go all the time. Even at this stage, my physical life was still my primary concern.

"Suddenly we came to a most beautiful place. I know that I've already reported how terrible that second heaven was, so you can imagine how surprising it was to find anything beautiful over there. God would not allow me to retain the memory of why this place was so beautiful. I do remember that it was the most beautiful place I'd ever seen. This place looked like a tunnel, a roadway, a valley or some sort of highway. It had a most brilliant light all its own and was completely surrounded with an invisible shield. I knew that the invisible shield was the protection of the Holy Spirit.

"Walking in this tunnel, or along that roadway, or valley, or whatever, was what appeared to be human beings. I asked my escort who they were. He told me, "They are saints going home." These were the departed spirits of Christians who had died on Earth and they were going home. Each of these saints was accompanied by at least one guardian angel and some had a whole host of angels with them.
"I wondered why some saints were accompanied by only one angel and others had many. I was watching as the saints passed through the way that all saints must take to go home. Here it was the passageway from Earth to the third heaven.

"Instead of allowing me to enter, the angel stationed me before the gates, slightly to one side. He instructed me to stay there and watch as the saints were permitted to enter into heaven. As the saints were allowed into heaven, I noticed a strange thing. They were permitted to enter only one at a time. No two were permitted to enter those gates at the same time. I wondered about this but it was never explained to me.

"When the last of the fifty saints had entered into the third heaven, I started to enter but my escort stopped me. He told me that if I entered I could not come out and that I would have to stay there until the Father brought me back. The angels told me that all who enter the third heaven must remain there until brought back to this physical world by Christ Himself.

When the angel said I could not enter unless I stayed. I protested, "But if I can't come out then my body will die! That will defeat my whole purpose!" was my emphatic rebuttal. Still my physical life, even at this point in time, was more important that anything else. My escort told me to stand to one side of the gates and present my case. He assured me that God would hear and answer my request. "As I stood before the gates, the sense of joy, happiness, and contentment radiated out from heaven. I could feel the warmth it produced and as I stood there to plead my case, I could feel the awesome power of God.

"Boldly I came before the throne and started out by reminding God what a great life of love, worship, and sacrifice I had lived for him. I told him of all the works I had done reminding him that I had accepted him when I was quite young and that I had served him all my life for all these many years. I reminded him that I was now in trouble and only God could help by granting me an extension of my physical life. God was totally silent while I spoke. When I had completed my request, I heard the real, audible voice of God as God answered me.
"The sound of his voice came down on me from over the gates even before the words hit me.
The tone of his anger knocked me on my face as God proceeded to tell me just what kind of life I had really lived. God told me what God really thought of me and even others who did as I had. God pointed out that my faith was dead, that my works were not acceptable, and that I had labored in vain. God told me that it was an abomination for me to live such a life and then dare call it a life of worship.

"I could not believe God was talking to me in this manner! I had served him for years! I thought I had lived a life pleasing to him! As God was enumerating my wrongs, I was sure God had me confused with someone else. There was no strength left in me to even move, let alone protest, yet I was panicking within myself.

"No way God could be talking about me! I just could not believe that what God said was referring to me! All of these years I thought I was doing those works for God! Now God was telling me that what I did, I did for myself. Even as I preached and testified about the saving grace of Jesus Christ, I was doing that only for myself in order that my conscience might be soothed. In essence, my first love and first works were for myself. After MY needs and wants were met or satisfied, in order to soothe my conscience I would set out to do the Lord's work. This made my priorities out of order and unacceptable. Actually, I had become my own false God.
"Only now as I was here before him being chastised did those two portions of scripture become crystal clear to me as to their true meaning. As God told me about my true motives, I could see plainly for the first time how my works were dead. Because God was displaying his wrath toward me, I could not stand nor could I speak. No strength was left within me as I was nothing more than a wet rag lying there writhing in agony.

"It needs to be stated that at no time while God was chastising me did God say I was not saved nor did God say that my name was not in the lamb's book of life. God never mentioned salvation to me at all but only spoke about the works produced through my life. God told me the type of life I lived was an unacceptable life for a true Christian. As God spoke to me of my dead works, God indicated that there are some people who are not saved but think they are. "When God was through with me the interview was over as suddenly as one would turn off a faucet. I was not allowed to linger or even reflect on what God said. The angels immediately carried me away as if I were a wet rag having no strength in myself. Totally annihilated, I could not even gather my thoughts.

"The angels carried me back through the second heaven, through the dimension wall, and into the hospital room where my body was lying. It was not until I reached the bed upon which my body lay did I regain my composure. As I regained my composure, I vehemently protested, "No! No!" I told the angels, "God did not answer me! God did not say yes or no to my request! Please, oh please, take me back!" I pleaded with the angels.

"Upon my arrival back before the third heaven, I was brought to the same place from which I had previously pleaded my case. Not nearly so bold this time, I remembered how God's wrath had floored me beforehand. Nevertheless, I had asked God for a favor and God had not answered. Wanting his answer no matter what it was, I timidly started pleading my case again.

"This time God did not knock me down but let me talk. God did not talk to me in anger but started out answering me in a tone of pity. Before it was all over, God was speaking in sorrow.

"Opening my plea by quoting scriptures to God, I began by telling him all about Hezekiah. I told God that I figured out that Hezekiah was the "good-old-boy" type that the intentions of his heart were pure, but he seemed to be unable to translate out those intentions into everyday living. Here I was, an insignificant nothing and the smallest creature in his entire universe, bartering words with this great and awesome God who had created it all.

"I said, "Father, if You will grant this request, I promise you I will do better the next time."

"The Lord answered me thusly, "Howard Pittman, you have promised before." God did not have to say another word. There they were, all the promises I had made to a holy God in my past entire life. Not one of them remained whole. Somehow, someway, I had managed to break them all. With nothing left to say, no words in all my vocabulary, nowhere to go, I fell on my knees before him. All I could say was "Amen" to my own condemnation. I knew that if at that moment God would banish me into the pits of hell, it would be just to say "amen" to my own condemnation.

"At that moment God did not demand justice but showed me mercy. The scales fell from my eyes and my soul was suddenly filled with light. That powerful, awesome, all-consuming God was now not evident. There on that throne dealing with me was my REAL Father. God was no longer a distant God, but a real, genuine Father. The realization of his being my true Father and my best friend came to me for the first time in my life. The wonderful relationship I had enjoyed with my physical father and the wonderful love we shared for each other was suddenly brought to mind yet magnified a thousand fold. For now I was with my real Father, the one who loved me so much that God left all of his creation to deal with me, the prodigal son.

"For the first time in my life, I saw in my mind's eye who God really is. For the first time I met God as God truly is, my real Father, my very best friend. As the realization of who God is flooded my soul, great and painful sorrow also came. Sorrow came when I realized that through disobedience I had hurt my Father. This realization and sorrow produced actual pain which was not just a guilt feeling but actual pain similar to what one would experience in the flesh when one sustains a physical injury. At this point in time, God started dealing with me in sorrow and no longer did the tone of his voice express pity. Instead, the sound was of genuine sorrow. I suddenly realized that God was hurting too. God was hurting because I was hurting. Being a true and just God as God is, God had to allow me to suffer the pain and God could not lift it from me. Although God had to allow me to suffer the pain, God would not allow me to suffer it alone. God the most High, the most Supreme, the Creator of all, the Father of all would not let me suffer alone.

"By this time I suddenly realized that my physical life was not so important after all. What I was really concerned about now was what my Father wanted. His will had suddenly become the first thing of my life and my physical life was no longer important. This is when God gave me back my physical life. Only when I reached a place that my life did not mean anything to me, did God give it back to me. Now that the prodigal son had returned, the Father could talk at last. God could tell me what my trip to heaven was all about and that God had a message God wanted me to tell people on Earth. "I now repeat for you point by point the entire five point message that God gave me to deliver to this world today."

Point number one: "For those who call themselves Christians, this is the Laodicean Church Age in which we live. A high majority of so-called Christians are, in fact, living a deceived life. They talk Jesus and play church, but do not live it. They claim to be Christians and then live like the devil. They have bought the great lie from Satan who tells them that they are alright. He tells them that it is alright to go to church on Sunday and attend mid-week services but as far as the rest of the time is concerned, they are to get all they can out of life. As far as their Christian life is concerned, they believe they are comfortable and have need of nothing and as a result, they are only lukewarm Christians if Christians at all."

Point number two: "Satan is a personal devil."

Point number three: "To the whole world, this is Noah's second day. As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man. Humans took no thought of what Noah was saying nor did humans believe that anything was about to change. Humanity could see the storm clouds over the horizon, but yet did not believe the rain was imminent. Notice the close parallel today. Humanity can see all the signs of the last days, yet humanity does not believe that anything will change. He does not believe in the impending coming of our Lord and he does not prepare to meet God."

Point number four: "For those who claim to be Christians, they are supposed to be ambassadors for Christ here on Earth. One cannot have any true witness or power in his life unless that one lives his Christian faith at all times, twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. To be a true Christian one must live it, not just talk it. To honor God with your lips and not your heart is not acceptable. Those who accept the responsibility of teaching, preaching, or any leadership role have much for which to answer.

Point number five: "God is now in the process of recruiting an army with which God will shake this old world one more time. By working through his soldiers, God will produce great miracles that will shake the established hierarchy of the so-called organized religion that is in this world today. These soldiers that God is now recruiting will demonstrate the power of God to a greater extent than did the disciples in the Pentecostal age. Now the recruitment has begun in earnest because God is about to perform the great miracles through his army that God promised us God would do in the Bible. John the Baptist brought the spirit of Elijah into this world and he did not even know he had it. John denied it, but Jesus confessed that it was so.

The purpose of that spirit was to make straight the paths of the coming of the Lord."

Friday, December 14, 2007

liar thief slander

Now is it only holland michigan and the environmental chamber business that holds so many liers theves, embezzlers, back stabbing slanders, and murders??

Shelly in parts and logistics,said slandering and murdering people is OK because It's "Just Politics" She worked with ester H. who ron wiley said her husben died back in 89, Oh well

with all the dishonest people i met at thermotron if she reads the book
"23 minutes in hell"

Bill Wiese 23 minutes in Hell
23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese. Bill Wiese saw the searing flames of hell, ...... Purchase his complete testimony "23 Minutes in Hell" at Amazon.com ...spiritlessons.com/Documents/BillWiese_23MinutesInHell_Text.htm - 103k - Cached - Similar pages

then she and shelly, (even mark lamers, and jerry sinzack) will see where they and most of their co-workers will will spend their retirement years and years..


Well guys,do u know anyone in the business that dosen't evulate that type of criminal behavior as (normal)
say fred plont says " gee p isn';t everyone a lier and a thief!!"

Greed V Johnson , tom bannish's pet..it dosne't matter who u lie cheat and steal and murder ..

so long as u get away with it and blame it on some one else..

he spent 3 years stealing , embezzling and lieing and slandering his co-workers and the customer..

But Randy Bunn of "Enseco" hired him and fired him after a few months..

So the robbery thief and embezzlement that was "OK" at THErMOtRON was not "OK " at the next few companies he worked at..

When dan ok eef, and Roger cannary libled and slandered me when i filed a claim with the labor commision..

they said that i "think i am better then these others.. !! (just because i think lying stealing and robbery is wrong..)

and if i didn't change my ways then they would "fire me"

He spent the last year after bannish and rouloffs conspired to defrad the salesman Bo bjarno. just becasue he was drunk alot.. gee this was normal.

Vergina Norris the final sales support person tom bannash helped drum out .. she left becsue tom bannish and gregory v johnson told her .. they were going to harrass and drum me out again..

dean Tripp said that's all tom bannish wanted to do as a manager .. was to "build a case against his co-workers"

Dean tripp left soon after.. tom bannish's Replacement arrived.. Berry wright..

When berry wright said what do u think about dean tripp?? i told dean lies to me and the customers, falsfies his working hours and travel hours, and he and gregg boy work on each others lies..but really "He 's been retired for the last 3 years .. but he likes the regular check!!

he now lives in farmington NM. and is 75 and waiting to go to hell.




i am surprised that some one hasn't walked into the office of thermotron and killed dan o'keef or jim roulf's for that matter..because it certainly is :"OK" to murder and conspire to defraud and mis lead
your co-workers or any one .. for any reason..

it won't surprise me when some one walkin to the company and shoots any number of those people

Dan okfe "employee attitude survey in the 1985" preceeded the biggest layoff , where as roger cook said he and everyone else didn't know dan o keefe was going to do that..
getting rid of the people who had 5 years or more so they wouldn't get vested in any retirement.

and then a month later hiring new people ..

it's no wonder TP and the gang at Sexton Espec told me that dan K brought a new and greater level of deceite to to industry.

But Ron Wiles told me in 2000 or so that his father started Sexton Espec,

Ron Willey told me way back when he worked in Cabinet that he was a good liar..

I guess he likes to believe his dad was something he wasn't

like most liers i met he likes to believe lies also..

when he dies and go to Hell it won't surprise me..

in the bible in Revelation 18';6 or 18

All liars will find their place in the lake of fire..

(even Bill and hilery clinton..) ha

When Tom Bannish was on the west coast i have never been surrounded by such a big and changing group of liars thieves and embezzlers and slanders..

and when i filed a case with the labor commision .. employee harresment was intensified..

Do you know the number of people that Tom Bannish harressed and drummed out??

Well tom patterson said that "either u go along with their lies or they attack you!!"

it is actually going to be a good thing when they

and a number of other'are dead.. because as they demenstrated .. perverts breed perverts..perverting the truth is OK


THE SATANIC BIBLE


SATAN'S STANDARD -- THE SATANIC BIBLE

But, there is another standard, advocated by God's adversary, Satan.

Satan has always wanted people to act in rebellion against God's commandments.
In fact, Satanism has always advocated a complete set of rules of conduct that are opposite of Christian, or Biblical values.


Clinton's actions constitute Satanism; at this point, many people will roll their eyes upward in the head, sigh, and accuse me of being stupid, ill-informed, or a religious radical for saying such a thing.

Why would they feel this way? Because they have not studied the hard, cold facts. Plus, they would naturally resist accepting such a position, because they might be challenged to change their own behavior!
Satanism is not just nasty, evil people meeting in the middle of a night in which the moon is full, chanting spells, and sacrificing animals or humans.
At its foundation, Satanism is a system of morality that is the opposite of Biblical teaching. Let us examine this value system of
Satanism more closely now, quoting from an authoritative source, Anton LaVey's "Satanic Bible".


moral degeneration

As before, Satanism is much more than being hooded in a coven during a Full Moon ceremony. Satanism is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, as we have already shown.

Once you understand the truth that today's America is encouraging indulgence in all matters of the flesh, you will understand that we are already prepared to accept Antichrist.
Now, we can understand the sentiment uttered above, by a college senior, that the

"President's sex life is none of our business",

or that sentiment uttered by another, who said that the President's sex life is "irrelevant to performing his job".
What this tells you is that these people have the same Satanic personal values as does President Clinton.

Since so many Americans apparently share this value system,
the "sheep are ready to shear", i.e., the American people are ready to be enslaved under Antichrist.
I think you have gotten the point by now.

America has changed her formerly Christian values to Satanic ones, without any one understanding what has happened.
But, now that you know, can you see that President Clinton is merely acting out in his life, in his body, the normal inclinations for any good Satanist?
And, can you see that those people who think what he is doing is "normal", or who excuse it in any way, or who express their desire to sleep with the President, are also subscribing to Satanism?

Wednesday, December 12, 2007

thermotron and U

Sunday, , 2007

thermotron 15 will get u 20

hello.. yes teaching school last year and this year was refreshing,

some days it was hardbut man oh man..

on the growing number of good days,it was great teaching elementary students 3rd and 4th grade..

Teaching them science , math, language arts.. etc.. teaching middle school was tougher.. some times you had to go in mean and stay mean all day..

What do you mean 15 years in the chanber business..you got 20 years all the way.. ..

don't you remember you replaced ..bob wiley..and your job included giving me a review ..

where you said i need to get along better with the embesslers and the bar flys ..

john tenbrink and dave durham called me squeeky .. your review was interesting ..

that i needed to spend more time in the bar with john tenbrink and gang,

as it was they were in the bar next to Boeing company for 8 to 12 hours a day ..

at the end of 6 months drunk john tenbrink married a kansas woman ,

who as marty rich told me when he and the unlucky time to work with john ,

s john was always trying lead his co-workers astray so he could rat them out.. any way.

.Marty rich , said that that wife of johns had the name of "Bitch" because it was the Bitch this, the Bitch that, The Bitch said this , the Bitch ..... bla bla bla,\

john should do well at Environtronics in grand rapids,

because in sales it is just get the customer drunk and pretend you are friends..

and lie and cheat everyone u meet.

Dick Alverson later told me were back stabing me .. but he said he knew it was a lie.. becausse he was on the job with me..

well John Tenbrink was right about Bob Wiley, Bob would believe what ever lies john would tell him and not ck it out..

But Dick Alverson was another who said Bob Wiley told this inner circle that it was ok to lie to him a little bit so long as they didn't get Bob in trouble. Wow that's original!!

, John would say that Bob is smart as a fox

i guess this is why old Bob is as smart as a fox..

don't let thes people teach or train your children..

because they will end up like the theves and murders i worked with in California.

.As Hil Sybesma said to me ..

Tom Banish found it hard to pull the wool over my eyes because i didn't believe his lies..

and Hil said he had the same problem that Tom has..(and they went to each others church)

Hil said he wants to be able to lie, cheat, steal, and slander people .. but he still wants people to like him...

He like many other theves i have worked with is Not on my Christmas card list.

realisticly .. a lot of these people need to go to prison.. no joke..

but i was talking to another company lately..and i told him that Thermotron was a Cut-throat company and that their salesmen were taught to do anything to get the sale.

Just lie to the customer because everone else is lieing to them

(and that dan o'keff liked starving used car salesman).

I also told Mitch Kerr from ALL TEMP ENGINEERING in california called me a back stabber..

because i complained that they whey weren't showing up on the job site and falsefying work documents.. and robbing the customer and co=workers

So i told him i have enemies there..

heck a man is made known by his enemies..

He Laughed .. and said every one in this business is a back stabber..

So as you see Tom Patterson i don't pull any punches..

I told "Wayne" At Environmental Spectalies on the east coast that Thermotron became confused on their priorities..

and as Dean Tripp said

it no longer mattered if you did a good job or a bad work...

His job under Tom Bannish was to lie to the angry customers and lie to his co-workers to find out what was going on.. and he and

Gregory V Johnson woudl lie and steal as a team when he came to the office i worked in.

I asked him and Roger cannary who was the national service manager if "thermotron was a money laundering operation for the MAIFA .

because the policy under tom bannish was

"Who ever Steals the most and does the Least is the winner"

oh well ... tom bannish said it's ok to be currupt because they are alll like that, and darn if u didn't aggree with that.

ya right 15 will get you 20...wow how time flyes..

i met a lot of people in holland who play church and are going to hell,and are full of devils..

How can you tell if some one might be full of devils ? you might ask!

if they are going out lying cheating and stealing on a daily basis ..

and think it is normal..

ill Bench at Russles technicial products, with his father Don Bench,

Both told it that they just lie to the customers and their co-workers..

because other wise they can not be conpetivitive with Thermotron..

Welll Dan J O'keefe had u Hollanders figured out..

(liares and thieves waiting to bloom)

.no wonder that Mark Lamers told me that

"Good People Don't work at Thermotron"for very long.

This could be a clue!!
Naaa.. as Fred Plont said ..

it's ok ... to be a thief and lie about everything,

because u are only supposted to look out for your self.

and yes teaching in the public schools can be heart warming..

at least i can tell the difference between the kids who are just learning to lie cheat and steal..

and the kids who are being raised with good moral and values..

oh.. i was told back in 1972 that hollanders and the Duch and Christian reformed church goers were petty and vindictive..

It sure proved to be true..

Thermotron is the winner is teaching their employee's to lie cheat, steal and embezzle, and murder and kill any one ..

So long as u Get away with it and blame it on someone else..!!!

Weel thanks for the memories!!!!

THERMOTRON

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

thermotron
Speaking of on the road again.......

you're heading West?

Hopefully some place more reasonable to live than California.Personally, with the costs and taxes here in Michigan I sure wouldn't make this my first choice.

There sure were a lot of memories from T-land.

Some good, some not.

Some things that were going on in the field I wish I had been aware of--but, in retrospect at least it was something to learn from.

I try to follow the "if you can't say something good..." philosophy so I won't say too much about Thermotron but the last 3 years seem to have made the problems with that management theory finally have a major effect on their business.

It surprises me that it takes so long for results to be seen from both good and bad things.I would expect quicker results.

It seems to work for us to be aware of the competition but not sell against them or even address them too much in our approach, just concentrate on the equipment and what we will do for the customer.

I have come to learn that there are some bad customers, very few actually, but it's best just to walk away and leave those to someone else.

Of course I think we could use more service people but I can't argue against the volume numbers I see coming in.

The trend is up but not by leaps and bounds so we're still in a holding pattern as far as adding people.
I certainly think you would be an asset.

We don't have a wild crew (unless I'm missing something again)but then how wild can one guy be?
As we get older we get wiser.

To thine own self be true.(and to heck with the rest)

Ihope the move works out well and keep in touch.

Best regards,Tom]Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 6:52

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as always.. humble

thanks for letting me vent over these years.

.But if i have ever hurt someone it was not intentional,

but interesting

hil sysbesma

referred to the management style as

"petty and vinidictive..

Especally after DAN o'keefe brought a law suit agains him for a 1.2 million dallars as recall Hil telling me.

When you leave with out his permission.

Tom banish's management style as Dean Tripp
(i believe he is 73 years old this year or 74)

said was

"make it hard on him the co workers"

he wanted to build a case against every one..

andTom bannish was very succussful in that .. in califronia he drummed out , Joyce Palmer, Von the sec, chryel Black, and Vergina Norris, Bo Bjarno, and my self..
and he let and taught Gregory V Johnson that is is ok to lie cheat and steal so long as u get away with it and blame it on some one else..

and ihis owas only in the San Jose office.. the LA , Conoga Park office was even worse..
without a doubt only liars thieves and embezzlers can really fit in there.

gosh, i guess i was a square..
all that drinking beer at lunch and after work.

That is why John Tenbrink and dave durham called me squeky..during the Boeing project..

John Tenbrink convinced John Sherman to ruin his marrage and be an adulter and John tenbrink found a woman in kansas to marry , which as marty rich said he referred to her as " The Bitch, this and the Bitch that..

guess they were wild
.. hank william's songs.."on the road again..
i can't wait to get on the road again

"john tenbrink singing.. kind of like his brother who died young " the cournalurnal "
music man

John tenbrink even gave me a record that his brother produced.

yes john tenbrink was a wild man.

He convinced John Sherman to be an adulter and ruin his marrage just so john tenbrink could have a drinking buddy while he was in wichita kansas at Boeing Co. .

Marty Rich.. got a taste of his style of "leading people astray"

When he was working at Sexton Espec he convinced marty to cheat on his time card with him and then when behind his back and blamed marty for it..

This is what tom bannach had people do in California to help build a case against them.

John TenBrink really should have gone to prison for embezzlement when he was at Thermotron and conspiricy with intent to defraud his co-worker.

This appears to be another holland style Holland'ers, church goers particular wird people..

where dishonesty was the policy..

But you Tom Patterson.. always seemed normal..good job...that's why u are successful in the sales game..look at these memories..what a waste of time..

The biggest illusion was"I thought it was important.. and nothing the work i did there mattered at all. "

Oh i did work at Boeing and Littion as a result of doing a good job BUT

At Thermotron ... Dan Okeefe.. really is a basic criminal psycopath..

it was just a monkey job..see i did have a blank on my forhead..

Tom Bannach was right .. he could lie, cheat and slander his co-workers.. and every one would go along with his lies..

Greg V Johnson a Tom Bannach pet was able to rob and steal and embezzle over 50,000 dollars and take home every thing in the office..and Greg V Johnson and Tom Bannach drummed out and defrauded their co-workers..

Randy Bunn who hired him at Enseco.. Fired him of robbery thief and embezzlement within 3 months of employment..

But Dean Tripp said they (Thermotron) like people like that.. who are dishonest, liars, back stabbers and thieves..

Mary Rich said to me that

Thermotron likes it

when u tell them that

"U lied for them"